AMD talks about the AMD Ryzen Threadripper in its Keynote at Computex 2017 and has surprisingly confirmed that ... no, nothing about that, it has not given the slightest information about these processors, it has simply taught us the brick of processors that these will be.
As we knew that AMD would not present AMD RX Vega, we decided to go to sleep peacefully and see what was in store for us today and it is like that, there have been no surprises and AMD RX Vega has not appeared anywhere. Some called us liars or slanderers, but hey, AMD has helped us shut up a lot of mouths. The truth is that for those who know AMD well, like us, we already knew that we would see absolutely nothing, so we went to rest for a new day of Computex 2017. Something has been seen, the AMD EPYC have been seen ... The AMD Ryzen Threadripper.
The new processors from AMD are clearly the desperation of the company to try to reach the level of Intel. Yesterday we saw an image that showed that the total surface area of Intel processors was almost half that of AMD Ryzen Threadripper processors. The explanation is that AMD has integrated up to four CCX modules (equivalent to two AMD Ryzen 7), in the same package and they will communicate with Infinity Fabric, the way in which AMD processors communicate, which we have talked about in other times, while Intel is committed to communication through Smart Caché L3, more efficient and powerful.
The most powerful processor based on Threadripper, the conversion to the general market of EPYC, will have a maximum of 16 cores and 32 processing threads, providing 64 PCIe 3.0 lanes. The Intel i9 7900X processor is true that it will have 44 PCIe lines, but it has a trick, since the Intel X299 chipset carries another 24 indirect lines, therefore they are in the end more lines than AMD processors. It should be noted that we do not know how many lines the processors above the i9 7900X have. Some have been launched directly against Intel and lie or tell the data that interests them, but we already know, they do not give for more and we will not enter the 'balls' that they become. The AMD X399 chipsets (we can name each one before the chipset so that you don't get confused, because it goes with AMD), they do not support indirect PCIe lines, well, it is the processor that does not support them.
| Intel Core-X Series Specifications | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Processor | Cores / Threads | L3 Cache | PCIe lines | Base frequency | Turbo Boost 2.0 | Turbo Boost 3.0 | Price |
| Core i9-7980XE |
18C / 36T
|
$1999 | |||||
| Core i9-7960X |
16C / 32T
|
$1699 | |||||
| Core i9-7940X |
14C / 28T
|
$1399 | |||||
| Core i9-7920X |
12C / 24T
|
16.5 MB
|
44
|
$1199 | |||
| Core i9-7900X |
10C / 20T
|
13.75 MB
|
44
|
3.3 GHz
|
4.3 GHz
|
4.5 GHz
|
$999 |
| Core i7-7820X |
8C / 16T
|
11 MB
|
28
|
3.6 GHz
|
4.3 GHz
|
4.5 GHz
|
$599 |
| Core i7-7800X |
6C / 12T
|
8.25 MB
|
28
|
3.5 GHz
|
4.0 GHz
|
$389 | |
| Core i7-7740X |
4C / 8T
|
8 MB
|
16
|
4.3 GHz
|
4.5 GHz
|
$369 | |
| Core i5-7640X |
4C / 4T
|
6 MB
|
16
|
4.0 GHz
|
4.2 GHz
|
$242 | |
Right now about the performance we can speculate everything we want, that we are sure we are wrong. In the table that we will leave you after the jump, we can see that Intel has set highly competitive prices, ranging from $ 242 for the quad-core and four-thread i5 7640X, to $ 2000 for the 9-core and 7980-thread i18 36XE processing. AMD for its part has not given the slightest information about Threadripper, without confirming models and number of cores and processing threads, frequencies or prices, so as always, we live in constant misinformation on the part of AMD, which gives rise to all these absurd tell and tell by 'brothers-in-law' who claim to know about hardware.
Well, don't go overboard with AMD either, you're giving it a lot of crushing, after all, the new i5 and that last i7 7740x are refried, that what they are doing with Vega is a real shame in that I totally agree but I think that with ryzen they have hit the table in price performance and I doubt that these Intel solutions for the high-end can do something in price quality against AMD, well at least that is my humble user opinion.
I agree, lately the news is too haters the subject with Vega is lousy only 1 minute in his presentation to show a game without data and we just have to believe his words. But ryzen undoubtedly promises a lot when it comes to processors, just look at the performance in the rise of the tomb raider that came out yesterday where there was a 52% improvement in 1080p resolution.
Those of Amd and Intel are the same owners, they fight brands and buses but they are the same shareholders. It's all a matter of their convenience
You give AMD too much cane, it is worth that the management with Vega is not doing anything well but remember that thanks to ryzen you see competition in the processor market again. The prices of the latest Intel processors are partly thanks to the leap that AMD has made with the ryzen. Before ryzen, the i5 would have been sold to you for € 400.
And that's not to mention the 8-core processor that will compete with the ryzen 7 1800x. Without the output of ryzen that processor would range between € 800-1000 and being optimistic.
That cpu looks like a hobbit's window frame. hahahahaha
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xD now I enter this web xD
Aren't articles supposed to be objective?
You talk about AMD fanboys and you're nothing but a disgusting intel fanboy, throwing pointless shit against AMD
Those Core i7-7740X and Core i5-7640X are simple refried foods with more consumption and I bet with the same toothpaste as their predecessors
My God, you can't be so disgusting when it comes to writing, do you have a problem with that company? So disgusting you? You look like a disgusted midwife ranting against whoever clung to it.
Please be more professional, look how thick you are, you cannot be so polarized, you are not objective, if you put the intel logo you light candles and the amd logo you vomit and piss on it. You take it very personal.
Why does this page always throw shit at AMD? Is this a personal blog or a news site? They should specify it not to read it first, My other Disqus account was blocked by HardwareSfera as well as many accounts for commenting on this post https://hardwaresfera.com/noticias/amd-se-olvida-rx-vega-lanzando-las-rx-500-series-unas-graficas-realmente-pateticas-nvidia-ya-piensa-volta/
As you can see in the Image, my comments were deleted for saying that the news was not objective.
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I think the article is very fanboy of intel, maybe in graphics amd could not compete in high-end envy yet but at least wait for them to come out, and with respect to the new amd processors they criticize the size but that will be the least If they have a good performance, because I remind you that Intel was far below in multi-task performance and and in applications for streaming and video editing, we will see if the new intel can reach amd, however I think the most accurate option for performance / price will be amd. for my case I hope a lot of war between them so I can soon have a 16/18 core processor at 500 euros prices and how things are going will be very soon. XD
The size is a problem, because there are no heatsinks and there won't be any for these processors, as heatsink manufacturers have already said. I must emphasize that, of course, AMD wins in multitasking over processors with fewer cores, but of course, anyone can do it, since in multitasking the number of cores counts, while in single-threading the frequency rules. In gaming, well... it's just...
Noctua always brings out the best solutions. And the size is not a problem at all, moreover, having more surface is better to dissipate heat.
There will always be a way to cool the processor, and there will be heatsinks for such a large processor, or do you think they will remove such a big bug without being able to cool it in some way, amd is not crazy to sell a processor that is not I can install a heatsink that cools it, with respect to Intel and its single wire you are right they are faster due to its frequency and it is useful in gaming and in applications that use single wire, now try to use them in multi-tasking and in environments that use many cores, they stay short compared to current amd processors, another thing that you do not notice is that the world of computing is increasingly towards the use of more cores even in video games they begin to take their first steps and that is where amd would have a longer lifespan for its current platforms.
I know perfectly how the world of computing moves. If you are not going to program, edit photos and video or stream while you play, you do not need a significant number of cores. Noctua and other brands have prototypes, but you should know that the problem with the heatsinks offered by AMD and Intel is that they have an average of 5ºC more than other solutions, thereby shortening the life of the heatsink. We do not know anything about AMD processors, but they must have a special heatsink from AMD, of which we do not know anything and neither the price of them. The problem is that the current heatsinks on the market do not work for you and we will see if these special heatsinks will serve you in future families of processors
I totally agree, there is a lot of information that needs to be established, it is most likely that these heatsinks only serve for amd, which is detrimental to those who already have current heatsinks, but I think we should be well served with amd because Intel already has ground subscriber and a much more corrected platform, well with the overclock and heating problems of some processors of the seventh generation i7, but still a much more worked platform, this is the first attempt of amd in the Premium range where Intel had no competition , but with these processors plus future updates we could see smaller processors with 16 or more cores and with a much higher cpi, Intel will always have the advantage but as this competition between brands is appreciated, for Intel lovers they have improved processors with more cores in the i9 and with more decent prices, thanks to amd…. and for amd lovers we will have processors of up to 16 cores with a good ipc, much more competitive, all-terrain processors and at a much more adjusted price. ultimately we all win.
Here is the Noctua heatsink for ThreadRipper:
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AMD 1 - Baurk 0
When you speak without having the slightest clue: https://hardwaresfera.com/noticias/computex2017-noctua-no-tendra-disipadores-compatibles-la-salida-amd-ryzen-threadripper/
Incredible that they create notes to misinform and want to be right. It is full of real news I warn you.
I am not concerned at all that the processor for desktop pcs has that size, on mobile computers I am not interested. It is more a while ago I wonder why they do not take advantage of the space in desktop pcs if it does not have to be so small. Also ... those of Intel for several generations that does not release anything new. Even the 4790k is still among the best and the little difference is because using ddr4. Intel came out to say don't overclock the 7700k because it gets hot.
Yes, we've discussed the 7700K issue and shared our perspective on it, not only after the press release but also in our review. https://hardwaresfera.com/noticias/intel-miente-la-temperatura-del-i7-7700k-amd-manipula-datos-rendimiento-los-amd-ryzen/
The person who wrote the article has gesticular diarrhea. It's definitely not for nothing that Ryzen was chosen as the best technology of 2017. And it's already known that for less than $900 you can install a 16-core CPU in your PC thanks to AMD. Consuming less energy than the rehashed Xeon processors called Core i9.