Intel and AMD not only compete for the processor market, they also compete to see who is more ridiculous, if Intel with a statement about the i7 7700K, denying the largest or AMD with a graph on the performance of the AMD Ryzen that is quite pain.
Today I think that no one can complain, because the criticism will be quite distributed and in the end, both Intel and AMD will receive their share. I will start with Intel and Kaby Lake and continue with AMD and AMD Ryzen. I have to say that the Intel thing was left in the pipeline for the week because I went on a trip and taking advantage of the fact that we have received a press email from AMD, which we have ignored, I am going to mount a double article where I will criticize both, like this, all friends.
INTEL AND TOOTHPASTE
Back in January, when we reviewed the Intel i7 7700K processor, we mentioned in our conclusions that it had serious temperature issues , noting that even with liquid cooling, the processor reached almost 90°C, which is insane. All that seemed to have been forgotten, and it's true that it received a lukewarm reception. While it's true that it had no competition, the arrival of AMD Ryzen completely overshadowed it.
In a statement responding to user complaints on the forum, Intel said that its processors don't have any temperature issues , that it's all in people's heads, and that it recommends using coolers with PWM fans, which adjust their speed based on the temperature. I'd recommend buying an air conditioner and running a hose to the CPU; it might be the only way to lower the temperature of this absurd processor.
The statement says not to remove the IHS because that would void the warranty, something that der8auer (who charges a fortune for these processors), one of the best overclockers in the world, has done with Intel's consent. He changed the thermal paste between the die and the IHS, and the processor has suffered a temperature drop of almost 20ºC. So much so that der8auer sells them overclocked, which is another issue to discuss.

The i7 7700K, have the letter 'K' at the end of the name, to indicate that they are processors prepared for overclocking, but Intel in its supine intelligence, to close the statement asks users not to raise the frequency and voltage. So why the heck do I buy myself an OC capable processor if you tell me not to because I'll lose the warranty? Honestly, if I owned one of these processors, I send a ticket to Intel with a copy of the invoice and I ask for a refund of the money and I send the processor to do with it what you are thinking.
Some would think that I have been a brute, but it is true, as a user I would feel cheated and cheated after reading the Intel statement, indeed, I get very angry, because I will not hide that I like Intel processors, it is more I have never owned a non-Intel processor in a personal computer and have owned multiple computers throughout my life. This happens to me and I ride a very serious chicken. Intel has dropped me on this case, because I think it has done the worst it could do, deny an obvious problem that all the professions that have analyzed these processors, have mentioned temperature problems.
AMD AND THE CRAZY AMD RYZEN PERFORMANCE CHART
A few days ago, we received an email from AMD with a press release, the highlight of which was an image. The image is a crazy graphic from AMD about their AMD Ryzen processors, and after analyzing it, I realized that nobody had read the fine print, but I had, and wow. I have to say that my first idea, which I had even before reading the fine print, was to debunk it with some benchmark graphs I got from Tom's Hardware , Bit-Tech , and the folks at Profesional Review —three competent and reliable sources in my opinion.
When I have read the fine print, things have changed (I will leave you the graphics, since I have worked it out, I put it in). You can see in a big way how the comparison is made to the Intel i7 7700K processor and the AMD Ryzen 7 1700X processor. I do not go into the synthetic benchmarks and others, which are benchmarks where the cores prevail over performance, I will go directly to the games, which is where the truly fun is in my opinion.
If we look at Premium Gaming (VR & 4K), we can see an asterisk. I was wondering the conditions of the benchmark about what other components had been and when I enlarged the small print I have freaked out in colors. It can be read that the tests carried out for this specific case have been made with an AMD Ryzen 7 1700 and an Intel i7 7700K. But suddenly it is compared to the AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, without giving more data. It should be noted that in VR and in 4K, the performance drops a lot and even if you use one processor or another, the performance will be almost the same, because there is a bottleneck, since the graphics cards work at everything they give, because the calculations Graphics are very complex and in VR the sudden movements make the FPS fall and in 4K the weight of the work is enormous, so if we look at the benchmark in 1080p and in 4K from the same game, we will see a brutal FPS difference.
The party is maximum when one sees that the data for the Gaming 1080, which has two asterisks, has been taken from three web pages such as PCGamer and KitGuru, both very prestigious and rigorous and from Game-Debate, which I do not know but which I have reviewed. and gives me guarantees. It has caught my attention that three of these four pages are reviews of the AMD Ryzen 5 processors, they have simply extracted the data and that's it. The problem is that in the Game-Debate data the Intel i7 7700K and AMD Ryzen 7 1700X processors do not appear anywhere, since they analyze the Ryzen 5 and the Intel i5.
- PCGamer AMD Ryzen 5 Review
- Game-Debate AMD Ryzen 5 1500X & AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
- AMD Ryzen 7 1700X KitGuru
- AMD Ryzen 5 1600X KitGuru
In KitGuru's review of the AMD Ryzen 5, the Intel i7 7700K does appear, but not the AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, while PCGamer's is the data and it seems correct to us. The problem is also another, they have put all the games in the same bag and that is an error, since each one has a development, different tests and a certain optimization, with which, putting them in a blender makes little sense. .
CONCLUSION
The user does not care who has it is the most powerful, what they are looking for is quality price. Intel with the i7 7700K certainly doesn't offer it and the statement is literally bursting into tears. AMD for its part also has its own. I could never say that in processing tasks they are worse, because it is not true, they are better than Intel solutions and offer a better price, something very positive, but in gaming they are below Intel and this botch has cloth. Both have swung on the basis of good and if we analyze the data, one realizes that they could have saved time and better not say anything, because they have both been fatal.

What I don't understand is, with the money and market percentage that Intel has, why doesn't it use a good thermal pad? to save a few pennies ??, it does not seem crazy ...
I wonder the same thing, I had to do the IHS and change the internal paste and there really is an improvement, I tried it on my i5 3570K ...
And for those of us who have an i7 7700k ... any solution? It's a bitch
So far the only solution that has been given is... "DON'T OVERCLOCK IT" it's stupid but it's Intel's logic
They still reach 90 ° C even if you open the browser
Yes, I have noticed ...
But hey, what can be done .. Wait to see what Intel does .. Although I doubt it will do anything.
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Anyone questioning the gaming performance of Ryzen processors (including Roberto Solé), I recommend this article: https://www.profesionalreview.com/2017/05/05/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k/
Anyway… Review xD rehash
So is it not worth buying an i7 7700k or a ryzen 5? if that is the case any recommendations to buy a good processor?
The AMD Ryzen are quite good and perform well, only that AMD has wanted to pass the list. An i7 7700K, being the Skylake, are not worth it
Ok, but if I want the processor for a gamer pc, would it still be okay to choose an AMD? Or is there another one in intel that is worth it?
What you say is not real, it is a simple error, just look at the real data and it is the experiences on YouTube ...
a VIA Cyrix III hehehe
It is as simple as that they were wrong quoting the data in the poster, now I am telling AMD ... The articles on this website get worse and worse ...